Motivation When mobile routers and mobile nodes converge at the edge of the Internet using wireless interfaces, they can form a wireless network cloud and are able to provide Internet connectivity to one another. This type of network is called a MANEMO Fringe Stub (MFS). Several issues exist in the MFS such as network loop, un-optimized path and multiple exit routers to the Internet. While fixed routers provide connectivity constantly, mobile routers can experience intermittent connectivity to the Internet due to their movement. When NEMO Basic Support is used in this context, network loops naturally occur. NEMO forces the packets to always travel through the home agent, which in turn causes an un-optimized path that can become a considerable problem when mobile routers form a nested topology. Different types of routers are able to provide Internet connectivity in the MFS, including both mobile routers and fixed access routers. Any node requiring Internet connectivity has to select the best exit router toward the Internet, therefore it is necessary for mobile nodes to maintain a local topology in the MFS and to utilize any available connectivity with a degree of Intelligence. Background At the IETF 68th, we requested BOF slot for MANEMO and rejected. However with the Jari's support, we had two unofficial meeting (Pre-BOF) about MANEMO. We also presented our problem scope in the AUTOCONF, MANET and NEMO meetings at the IETF68. Actually, the pre-BOF maybe the first meeting where MANET folks and MIP/NEMO folks came to the same table and discuss a topic. There was big discussions due to misunderstanding. However, as you can see in the agenda of the pre-BOF, many folks from several working groups presented their idea for MANEMO. All the activity information including the pre-BOF log can be found at http://www.mobileip.jp/MANEMO/IETF68.html Many internet-drafts were submitted for MANEMO. The list of documents can be found at http://www.mobileip.jp/MANEMO/Documents.html After the IETF68th, we found that the problem we raised was not technically accurate. Many attendees confuse what is MANEMO, specially folks from AUTOCONF and MANET Working Group. However, I believe there is big differences between MANEMO and MANET/AUTOCONF. This is being summarized as an internet draft now (not yet published, but will be ready soon). This document should be useful to understand the technical problems (specially distinguish between AUTOCONF/MANET and MANEMO). We are also updating the existing problem statements and other documents for the upcoming IETF, though we don't submit the new version to the IETF yet. We will discuss the problems and goals of MANEMO on the ML before this IETF and gets attention of IETF attendees to the "OFFICIAL BOF" of MANEMO. Industry pay attention to the MANEMO activity at IETF with great support. I also have confidence to describe the exact problems of MANEMO at this IETF68th :-) The next step should be to decide what IETF can play a roll of this MANEMO activity. We would like to have a BOF to make a discussion of problem and working scope of MANEMO in IETF. Related Groups - NEMO WG - MANET WG - AUTOCONF WG - 6LOWPAN WG - MIP6 WG - etc. Related Document Problem Statement & Analysis -draft-wakikawa-manemo-problem-statement-00.txt -draft-boot-manet-nemo-analysis-00.txt - draft-baldessari-c2ccc-nemo-req-00.txt -draft-mccarthy-manemo-configuration-problems-00.txt Solutions -draft-thubert-tree-discovery-04.txt -draft-thubert-nina-00.txt -draft-thubert-nemo-reverse-routing-header-07.txt -draft-petrescu-manemo-nano-00.txt Related Documents from other WGs -draft-clausen-nemo-ro-problem-statement-01.txt -draft-ietf-autoconf-manetarch-01.txt -draft-ietf-nemo-ro-problem-statement-03.txt -draft-ietf-nemo-ro-space-analysis-03.txt